- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. If any participants wish to write an article about the market itself, they're welcome to. asilvering (talk) 03:58, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
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The article fails Wikipedia:Notability (events) as I cannot find sources for it that are not simply routine coverage contemporary to the fire. Grumpylawnchair (talk) 03:00, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kenya-related deletion discussions. Grumpylawnchair (talk) 03:00, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Environment. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:15, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: there are multiple sources for the event and others follow-up coverage, like BBC, DW, CNN, Kenya Star, The Nation, Nairobi News FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:15, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ZyphorianNexus Talk 03:02, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- delete The Nairobi News article specifically says that the issue at the market is that fires are common, basically every year of late. This implies that there's nothing special about this fire. Mangoe (talk) 03:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- People are murdered everyday but some murders are being covered more than the other. So, if we are to follow your analogy, murders should not be covered on the encyclopaedia because obviously, people are being murdered everyday. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:48, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – I don't think their point is that any event that happens daily should be excluded. A murder that's covered on Wikipedia has some kind of significance or notability to it. The nominated article at present doesn't have a claim of significance or notability to it, and the objections of the delete side is that the coverage appears routine. Yue🌙 07:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- People are murdered everyday but some murders are being covered more than the other. So, if we are to follow your analogy, murders should not be covered on the encyclopaedia because obviously, people are being murdered everyday. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:48, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – Per WP:MILL. Absolutely ordinary event, with no major consequences. Svartner (talk) 23:14, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep and move. The sources provided by FuzzyMagma seem to indicate that while this event isn't notable, the market is. There's plenty of other coverage as well to meet GNG, since it's apparently one of the largest markets in East Africa. [1], [2], [3][4][5] -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:30, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. It would help if participants reviewed the sources just brought to this discussion. And if this article is Moved (which would have to happen after AFD closure), what is the suggested new title?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:31, 6 February 2025 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I don't think closing on a no consensus is warranted here. Further discussion seems necessary as there are a few valid arguments.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, All Tomorrows No Yesterdays (Ughhh.... What did I do wrong this time?) 14:09, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify: The sources found by FuzzyMagma will enable the article to meet WP:GNG. I don't agree with Svartner's WP:MILL argument, since there were several fatalities and surrounding homes were destroyed. In fact, although the Nairobi News piece mentions the other fires, this one appears to have special significance due to the lives lost and the extent of the property damage. The article should be expanded to include information from the reliable sources that provide WP:SIGCOV.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:42, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify or Delete. The Gikomba market is notable. This fire is not. All sig cov is contained to the time period, not indicating lasting significance. we could write an article about the market itself, but that's probably a different article. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:02, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
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